http://macroquest.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/macroquest/macroquest2/MQ2Main/MQ2DetourAPI.cpp?revision=1.16&view=markup /// http://macroquest.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/macroquest/macroquest2/MQ2Main/MQ2DetourAPI.cpp?revision=1.17&view=markup ///// Pick one they both have the fix in it. the "Expliot" in mq2 you found really wasn't an exploit at all it was really just missing the right memcheck.... you made it sound all....like you ware some god at coding. when anyone who has read the macroquest boards woulda knowen to look for this. Quite frankly the fact that it took you so meny years to finaly figer it out just....just...wow heh can't belive i actully belived it was somthing "leet" but i n reality it wasn't.. ;p i've only been looking at macro quest code for a few months but ya, fairly simple best get that out and distributed! !!! maybe. i haven't quite desided yet as the mq2 users or sod users in general wouldn't know to look for this so props there so they probly will never figer it out or atleast as a whole i am sure theres a couple people out there running this now and ware when you ware dropping the "bombs" lol found it pretty quickly yourself tho i'm positive on that as well far from a fool proof plan what can i say...i had the motavation to do it...that motavation kinda faded atleast the motavation to spite you guys has faded a bit i suppose thats good for us, in the short run at least at all really that is the only way you guys could ever detect macroquest if it was made "public" you would probly never detect it again eh, I wouldn't say that would certainly take some time though always be dumb people oh well no doubt idiots who will try the warp plugin and all and smart people on a lazy day on a side note I never did use it to track mobs i couldn't have tracked otherwise was just being lazy. Exp PoN. I was flagged i could run safely right up to the sisters feet and poke them...but i was lazy so i would load mq2 and look. I never did actully use it to scout otherwise the worst thing i used it for atleast imo was finding my ground spawns for my deity quest lawlz I don't doubt that Like i would always comfirm i could track it legit before i would use it. I have deved servers i know how it is i held to my own code. frankly a policy stating limited MQ2 use is allowed would be simpler but thats now how it goes agreed yeah wiz has some cheater fetish and i think he spread it to wold like rotting plague in athica from a creator mentality I understand it 100% someone is spoiling YOUR content seeing info they shouldn't be able too etc etc from a coder standpoint I'm meh lol idk i think overall i had a postive impact on the server. Wold was talking about freeing up tier congestion and well on all my pickups i probly made it possible for alot of the lowerish tiered guilds to progress and still get new and shiny things to show off. Most the people i would take on pickups ware stuck on T3-4 Cuz there ware so meny people on that tier that there was a major bottleneck I hope the exspantion fixes that quite frankly eh there will be new low tier targets but not that many even like it'll help the high end clogs, tier 7+ 5 new targets will help but not as much low end franky that'll happen at least just not a full zone sadly should thinka bout adding a few more low end lots of things I'd like... we got a good staff now finally have enough GM's got a new coder recently times is good but always more to do You giving GMs the ability to drop your bombs or reserving that for you and wold? slowly expanding it don't want to give too many people hwo have no clue whats going on the power to tho too easy to misinterpret shit and some folks be trigger happy heh Think the donation status is a direct result of the knight nerf and the hacker ban fest (i can't belive you called them hackers for downloading shit from mq2emu and the like) and also props on changing the release date on eqgame.exe not that it stops alot of people but i am sure its stoped a few So like. Ware the orignal bans always gunna end up ip bans or was i singled out? more or less, our ban command is dumb and bans EVERYONE who touched an account no i mean in the event ban so we disabled that real quick before the ban fest oh i get it getting to that ;p but a side effect of that, was removing the ip ban since it was such a quick hack job didn't even test it SEE. thats all i wanted and i wouldn't have flown off the handle. I knew wold was active i knew he was the one that did it....>.< God damn, I mean i regret doing it but sheesh thats all it woulda taken lol lol kinda figures so like If i changed my ip or tunneled thru a proxy And was found out would i be banned again or what or is it possible to get the ip ban removed i have np rerolling a new char and as a matter of fact thats what i had been doing when i got rebanned hard to say if you were caught, maybe *you see i am on a static ip so kinda screwed on options* but you'd have to be DAMN careless for that to happen well vent big issue hm true i have raided with almost everyone t5+ on the gd server unless an admin found ya i doubt anything would come of it no one on the dev level would recognize ya i think i was on vent with a couple gm's once at like 4am i was a nameless no tier Tmap druid but like say someone reported me and suspected me of being who i am That would go noware? unless you gave yourself away with the IP missing there is little tha tcould be done people get around IP bans all the time frankly oh i know i am just waiting to see if the bot detectors on one of my friends webservers has a way to make exspetions on rules..if there is i will be playing tommarow night at the latest lol handy proxy I take it? actually don't tell me more don't feel like having the info lawlz that made me lol so why did you remove all the banned people from fomolo? i was surprised that happened i know woldaff and alliey weren't really asked that was all kinda dynak your pretty good about being objective..if you ware me what would you do keep it to yourself or release it? i am currently 50/50 on the issue as your cool and wold was being a little prick lol well the show was put on well alot of people are scared to cheat now frankly the confession emails we've gotten from people we missed are actually pretty hilarious lawlz even those not using MQ2 but breaking policy in some other way more people banned? what LOL morons i know heh and frankly its not like we haven't been working the social aspect some people are convinced we planted fake MQ2 DL's out there to log what they are doing lol wow just wow its really enlightening lol we seriously got this email from a guy whose all like "I was 2 boxing from 1 account. I am so sorry. I'll never do it again, I just don't wanna be banned. I can donate to move the characters next pay check, just don't ban me' we're like wtf but back on to the question is that even possible don't you crash the client when you try to login 2 chars from the same account or atleast booted to the login screen it's possible i do it sometimes on my GM when i'm in a hurry depends on your router settings more than anythign else it seems hmm easy to check tho I digress not fair to ask me if you should release it or not ;p my life is certainly simpler if you don't but it'd probably be months until the powers that be figured out we'd been circumvented so I suppose it wouldn't hurt me in the short term honstly probably more than months you would know =P phew you wouldn't tell them? lol I got enough work on my plate I'm doing this cause I learn alot and learn what mistakes not to make when I eventually go solo on some crazy venture of my own got just enough an audience to let me know when I fuck up but not big enough to REALLY matter hm true you do good work i'll give ya that eh, I do acceptable work with more transperancy than my peers as in the other SoD folk not like the eqemu folks which I have much respect for and I cringe a bit every time i read the eula's still in our source code yeah thats always peved me a bit Wiz branching off and not sharing but eh nothing i can do about it we're mending fences a bit at least with the current eqemu devs gonna be awhile til anything productive comes of it sadly yeah was gunna say SoD and Eqemu are like totaly dif dev teams now save a few Rogean and image are all thats left of what i would call "orignal eqemu dev team" as for sod Have you been around since it was WR? nope. I started playing july 07 and joined staff jan 08 so shortly after the 2.0 changes So who has been on since WR and is still active? Zaela maybe? allielyn i think but the latter is a GM aye and zaela was items for the longest time THE gm and nothing more items are the easy work lol ya, she's good though her recent dev work is great and has a head for the horrific tangle that is the current SoD source Eh no comment on the knight change execpt it went to far and there shoulda been some notice despite not being a coder ya actually i'm testing that shizzle today the code side changes otherwise i agree with the change will make things better eventually but it was quite the PR nightmare yeah another lesson learned for me heh Tell people give them time to absorb it give input THEN put in a change like that Oh and don't troll the players who are trying to troll you always works to lol ok whatever your decision, don't let me know ;p time for me to catch some Z's lol